Police Finally Arrest Man Who Drove a Ferrari F1 Car on Public Roads for 6 Years

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I tried to tell them it is registered in Ibiza. Besides it's not an F1 racer if it does not have a sponsor.
 

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He pulled over on the shoulder one day for the required Ferrari oil change. It took the typical 3 days to remove and replace the engine to get the oil and filter replaced. This gave the police time to finally catch up and arrest him.
 

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More amazing to me is the fact that they don’t seem to have police helicopters there…
I mean they must not because sure, you can outrun the cars, but once a chopper locks onto the vehicle you’re not losing him very easily, if at all, so how did it take that long to catch him?
 

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I somehow doubt that it has a full race spec F1 V8 in it with the full 750-800 hp.

F1 engines since the '90s have effectively required an army of people and computers just to get the engine started. The tolerances are so tight on them that if you don't pump pre-warmed fluids into them and wait for the entire thing to get upto the correct temp for a couple hours *prior* to starting the engine, you won't get it to start. They're effectively a seized engine until you get adequate temperature into them.

F1 engines from the era also don't have on-board starters. Someone has to plug an external starter into the back of the car to get the engine running--once again, only after everything has been pre-warmed and the bank of computers says it's OK to do so.... In other words: don't stall it, because using it on public roads, you *will* end up stranded.

The more modern F1 cars with 1.6L turbo V6s and hybrid systems weigh quite a bit more, and thanks to the hybrid system, they can infact restart the engine should it stall. The 2.4L V8s the car in question allegedly has, do not...

And to get 800 hp from a 2.4L V8, you have to rev it to near enough 20,000 RPM. That's what the first couple seasons of V8 F1 engines were doing in 2006-7. The ones that came after wound up with a mandated rev limiter at 19,000, which kept power below 800 hp...

So, yeah, I'm taking the details about this car with a HUGE grain of salt as someone who's watched F1 fairly closely for 25 years now. Virtually none of the manufacturers who made the race engines back then will share the information to let anyone operate those high-strung engines on their own.

If you "buy" a Ferrari Formula 1 car from them, the only thing you can do is request them to deliver the car to a certain race track on a specific day, and they will send the car PLUS the full army of people and equipment required to actually prepare and operate the car.

If this rebel is single-handedly operating this car on his own, and it has electric start, it almost certainly is not a real F1 drivetrain, and it damn sure isn't a normally aspirated 2.4L making 800 hp, as the pure F1 race cars did do in that mid to late aughts period.

There are some drivetrains one can buy that are more user-friendly to be a pretend F1 driver on the street, but they categorically are not going to make that amount of horsepower from such a small displacement.

Just watched one of their videos... definitely doesn't sound to my ears that it's revving quite as high as they claim. It is pretty high, but not 19,000-20,000 high. It also sounds like it idles lower than the genuine F1 engines from the era. Those F1 engines idle at an RPM higher than a lot of road legal cars do at redline... 7,000 RPM is the idle speed for a lot of those engines.

My guess is it's a Cosworth V8 of some kind that does rev a fair bit lower, makes a good bit less power, but is also a lot more usable.

It looks and sounds more like a 'Grand Prix Masters' car from the mid 2000s. Cosworth-based V8 that can rev above 10,000 RPM, but not a whole lot more. More displacement at 3.5L, but with less revs, max power is more like 650hp. Still plenty fast in such a lightweight car, of course...
 

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Matt-98AHU,

Thanks for the videos. I never knew those things had such high RPMs. They really sing....
They turbo V6s they use now with some fancy direct injection, hybrids and such, they don't quite get that high, but still higher than the Cosworth V8s apparently being used by the fake F1 car.

But yeah, the old normally aspirated V10s (every car was a 3.0 V10 from 1996-2005) and V8s (2.4L from 2006-2013) from the late '90s to early 2010s really sang. They were wild to witness in person. Other-worldly shriek to them. It's insane to think about the engineering that went into them to allow them to rev so high.

Since the 1980s, most engine makers in F1 stopped using valve springs. The higher revving they got, the more it became nearly impossible for springs to keep up without allowing valve float. So, they instead starting using a special valve with a chamber replacing where the srping(s) would be and send compressed air into it. Still a normal camshaft, but valve closure done by air pressure instead of springs.

That era definitely was where F1 was using tech so exotic that there was no practical use for it in road cars. They effectively had to use throttle body fuel injection, still one injector per cylinder sort of idea, but isn't port injection and it's a massive amount of fuel being injected at max RPM. Injector would hang over an intake trumpet/individual throttle body and just dump fuel. The current V6 turbo hybrids were meant to address using technologies that are more relevant to current and future road cars. Using some fancy form of direct injection, a turbo that has a motor/generator integrated into it, and a flywheel motor/generator hybrid system as well. All things that could and in some cases already do have real world road car applications.

But, the V6s just don't have that visceral sound the normally aspirated, extra-high revving engines did. Us F1 fans miss it... It seemed physics-defying to have a piston engine spinning that fast and making such noise. It was awesome to experience.
 
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Wow thank you for the detailed explanation. Very interesting!

Do you know the bore and stroke of the 3.0 V10?
 

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Wow thank you for the detailed explanation. Very interesting!

Do you know the bore and stroke of the 3.0 V10?
Off the top of my head, no, but they were very oversquare engines. Very very short stroke and big bore. Every manufacturer could make it whatever dimensions they wanted so long as it met the displacement requirements, so there would be some variance. Could be very roughly bore is near twice the size of the stroke.... Bore somewhere in the 90+ mm range, stroke often less than 50mm sort of idea.
 
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